Why I can't call myself a pacifist.

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Okay, so I was thinking about the best way to defend myself - since well I am a pacifist - though at lot of that was due to my great fortune of being raised in a Mennonite family where one of the key aspects to faith is pacifism - had no violent TV shows/movies at home, no water guns, GI Joes - none of that. It took me a long time to wrestle with it - but I accept it for various reasons.

1. War is destructive and self serving to borrow a line from Linkin Park - it's the poor who suffer when the rich wage war - War is nationalistic, it isn't about what's best for the poorest, it's about oil, land, resources. WW! was purely nationalistic - two allied teams against each other. WW2 was that at it's core, we've just managed to tack the whole Holocaust thing in there. The US was not involved until it served them - and death camps not found until areas of Germany, Austria and Poland were liberated - well into the campaign. In the end the US took land - and WW2 became the Cold War - a war about power not about ideas and freedom of people. Vietnam and Korea followed in that vein and now Iraq times 2 has followed under the guise of saving the masses and yet the issue is strategic position and power - not poverty and equal rights.

2. The people who we hail through history have realized the fundamental truth that a gun solves nothing - Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr., Margaret Mead, Mother Teresa, Gandhi, the Dalai Lama, the man in Tianamen Square - they are iconic images or people who we look to as the best of society. The individuals who have raised weapons either forgotten altogether or scorned - Hitler, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, the Bushes etc.

3. As to watching people die - we're doing it all over the world - dirty water, starvation, AIDS etc - so maybe we should put down the over priced pieces of metal we use to make ourselves right and channel it into something so counter intuitive to our culture and so much like Christ.
I'm sorry if I came off as attacking (or made you feel like you had to defend yourself)...I'm still working this out myself.

@1. I understand that WW2 was not started because of the holocaust and that the primary motivation of the leaders was not freedom. It was a major positive consequence though. One worth dying for. Throughout history wars have not been fought for the right reasons very often (if ever)...we're in Iraq but we ignore Rwanda and Darfur. I guess I'm thinking idealistically...but if a country like America stepped into those situations there would be much less death if it was handled properly. Its completely unrealistic i guess...but a 100,000 soldiers confiscating machetes could have kept an entire people group from being wiped out and probably wouldn't have even been attacked (surely the leaders would have realized that the troops/murderers so effective at murdering unarmed women and children wouldn't stand a chance against an army).

@2. I agree. I'ld rather be on the side of pacifism than the side of war-mongering...but I just crave a step from pacifism...the "I'll never take up arms to defend myself but I'll stand up for the helpless and the defenseless if need be" position. An unlikely position for a nation to take I guess...we'll fight when we won't gain anything and we won't fight when it will cost us everything.

@3. Right now I'm just as much of a pacifist as anybody else. Iraq sucks. War sucks...I hate it. I hope it never happens again. I'm NEVER for starting a war. I just think in a few cases joining on the side of the oppressed may be the right thing to do. I guess when dealing with a country its pretty much impossible to expect them to hold to that though.

Thanks for posting...I was curious to hear your opinion on the issue.




Being a pacifist is difficult for reasons such as your personal upbringing. i.e. what television you do watch, and what toys you play with. I believe that pacifism is good, its a model of Christ. We should always be non-violent in our manner of protest, and daily actions. But there is a cause for war. I disagree with the Iraq war, for reasons known and unknown. But war is biblical, it will occur and we shouldn't try and stop it, only pray that its Gods' will. As for raising arms to defend ones self, I am uncertain how I feel. I am for and against it. Personal servival is the most basic human desire, and it is hard to deny. I suppose issues such as pacifism are ones that are dealt with till death.

I didn't find it was an attack - it's one of those things that is hotly contested - as you will see if you read my response to your blog on mine - wow, apparently discussing war is a good way to generate comments. I think WW2 is still a difficult one to argue - as I discussed on my blog briefly - while it did end the slaughter of Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Christians and anyone seen as other. The subsequent policies that laid the groundwork for the current situation in the Middle East and East Europe are the downside. While the camps ended - immigration policies in Canada and the US made Jewish immigration, especially for children difficult. But that's a whole other story. Quite simply it's one of those things - you are on one side or the other.

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